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Edith Smithling

Female 1893 - 1928  (35 years)


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  • Name Edith Smithling  [1
    Born 1893  Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Female 
    Census 1895  Hobart, Otter Tail, Minnesota Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    _UID CD60B92E442E4BAE94D87028BA3E91A1AD6F 
    Died 23 Jan 1928  Perham, Otter Tail, Minnesota, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Person ID I10465  Paul's Genealogy Tree
    Last Modified 20 Aug 2013 

    Father Michael Smithling,   b. 1847, New York Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Mother Mary Reff,   b. Cal 1853, New York Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 1873 ?  New York ? Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Children 7 children 
    Family ID F10218  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family James Combs,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Last Modified 17 Nov 2012 
    Family ID F10226  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 1893 - Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1895 - Hobart, Otter Tail, Minnesota Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 23 Jan 1928 - Perham, Otter Tail, Minnesota, United States Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S853] 1895 Minnesota State Census - Otter Tail County, Minnesota, Otter Tail, (Digital images. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. \i FamilySearch\i0 . http://familysearch.org : 2012), Otter Tail, p. 15, family 105, Christopher Reff; (http://familysearch.org : accessed Nov 16, 2012) (Reliability: 3), 16 Nov 2012.
      Family Number: 105
      Name: Reff, Christopher
      Age: 40
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 13 years
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 4 years, 4 months
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Mary
      Age: 37
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Canada
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Ernest
      Age: 19
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes


      Name: Reff, Gertrude
      Age: 12
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Henry
      Age: 10
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

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      Family Number: 106
      Name: Reff, John
      Age: 72
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: France
      Years & Months in this state: 15 years, 8 months
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 8 years
      Occupation: farmer
      Soldier or sailor in War of Rebellion: Sold.
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Julia
      Age: 67
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Germany
      Years & Months in this state: 15 years, 8 months
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 8 years
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      ---------------

      Family Number: 107
      Name: Reff, George
      Age: 29
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 15 years, 8 months
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 15 years, 8 months
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Caroline
      Age: 19
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Mich.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Reff, Mannie J.
      Age: 2
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Reff, Olla
      Age: 1
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

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      Family Number: 108
      Name: Smithling, Michael
      Age: 49
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 16 years
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 16
      Occupation: farmer
      Soldier or sailor in War of Rebellion: Sold.
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Smithling, Mary
      Age: 46
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes


      Name: Smithling, George
      Age: 21
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 16 years
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 16 years
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no


      Name: Smithling, Leon
      Age: 18
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Matthis
      Age: 16
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Frank
      Age: 14
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Elizabeth
      Age: 12
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Cora
      Age: 6
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Edith
      Age: 2
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no
      Sidner J. Ward
      Sidner J. Ward
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      Smithling-Reff
      Smithling-Reff
      Martin Burch & family, and mother Sarah
      Martin Burch & family, and mother Sarah
      Martin Burch & family, and mother Sarah, Washington, D.C., 1930
      Image source: https://archive.org/stream/15thcensus302unit#page/n69/mode/1up
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      George Reff, Mary Reff (Smithling)
      George Reff, Mary Reff (Smithling)


    2. [S853] 1895 Minnesota State Census - Otter Tail County, Minnesota, Otter Tail, (Digital images. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. \i FamilySearch\i0 . http://familysearch.org : 2012), Otter Tail, p. 15, family 105, Christopher Reff; (http://familysearch.org : accessed Nov 16, 2012) (Reliability: 3), 16 Nov 2012.
      Family Number: 105
      Name: Reff, Christopher
      Age: 40
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 13 years
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 4 years, 4 months
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Mary
      Age: 37
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Canada
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Ernest
      Age: 19
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes


      Name: Reff, Gertrude
      Age: 12
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Henry
      Age: 10
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      ------------

      Family Number: 106
      Name: Reff, John
      Age: 72
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: France
      Years & Months in this state: 15 years, 8 months
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 8 years
      Occupation: farmer
      Soldier or sailor in War of Rebellion: Sold.
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Julia
      Age: 67
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Germany
      Years & Months in this state: 15 years, 8 months
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 8 years
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      ---------------

      Family Number: 107
      Name: Reff, George
      Age: 29
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 15 years, 8 months
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 15 years, 8 months
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Caroline
      Age: 19
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Mich.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Reff, Mannie J.
      Age: 2
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Reff, Olla
      Age: 1
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

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      Family Number: 108
      Name: Smithling, Michael
      Age: 49
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 16 years
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 16
      Occupation: farmer
      Soldier or sailor in War of Rebellion: Sold.
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Smithling, Mary
      Age: 46
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes


      Name: Smithling, George
      Age: 21
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 16 years
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 16 years
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no


      Name: Smithling, Leon
      Age: 18
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Matthis
      Age: 16
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Frank
      Age: 14
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Elizabeth
      Age: 12
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Cora
      Age: 6
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Edith
      Age: 2
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      Smithling-Reff
      Smithling-Reff
      Sara V. Burch
      Sara V. Burch
      Sidner Ward
      Sidner Ward
      Sidner Ward
      Sidner Ward
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      George Reff, Mary Reff (Smithling)
      George Reff, Mary Reff (Smithling)


    3. [S853] 1895 Minnesota State Census - Otter Tail County, Minnesota, Otter Tail, (Digital images. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. \i FamilySearch\i0 . http://familysearch.org : 2012), Otter Tail, p. 15, family 105, Christopher Reff; (http://familysearch.org : accessed Nov 16, 2012) (Reliability: 3), 16 Nov 2012.
      Family Number: 105
      Name: Reff, Christopher
      Age: 40
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 13 years
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 4 years, 4 months
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Mary
      Age: 37
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Canada
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Ernest
      Age: 19
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes


      Name: Reff, Gertrude
      Age: 12
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Henry
      Age: 10
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      ------------

      Family Number: 106
      Name: Reff, John
      Age: 72
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: France
      Years & Months in this state: 15 years, 8 months
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 8 years
      Occupation: farmer
      Soldier or sailor in War of Rebellion: Sold.
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Julia
      Age: 67
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Germany
      Years & Months in this state: 15 years, 8 months
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 8 years
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      ---------------

      Family Number: 107
      Name: Reff, George
      Age: 29
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 15 years, 8 months
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 15 years, 8 months
      Occupation: farmer
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Reff, Caroline
      Age: 19
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Mich.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Reff, Mannie J.
      Age: 2
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Reff, Olla
      Age: 1
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      -------------

      Family Number: 108
      Name: Smithling, Michael
      Age: 49
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 16 years
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 16
      Occupation: farmer
      Soldier or sailor in War of Rebellion: Sold.
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes

      Name: Smithling, Mary
      Age: 46
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: yes
      Mother of foreign birth?: yes


      Name: Smithling, George
      Age: 21
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state: 16 years
      Years & Months in this enumeration District: 16 years
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no


      Name: Smithling, Leon
      Age: 18
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation:
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Matthis
      Age: 16
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: N.Y.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Frank
      Age: 14
      Sex: m
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Elizabeth
      Age: 12
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Cora
      Age: 6
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no

      Name: Smithling, Edith
      Age: 2
      Sex: f
      Color: w
      Birthplace: Minn.
      Years & Months in this state:
      Years & Months in this enumeration District:
      Occupation: farm laborer
      Father of foreign birth?: no
      Mother of foreign birth?: no
      Find-A-Grave Memroal for Martin Burch
      Find-A-Grave Memroal for Martin Burch
      Sidner J. Ward
      Sidner J. Ward
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      Smithling-Reff
      Smithling-Reff
      Headstone of Martin Burch
      Headstone of Martin Burch
      Photo courtesy: Stan Jett
      3/16/2012
      Headstone of Martin Burch
      Headstone of Martin Burch
      Photo courtesy: Stan Jett
      3/16/2012
      Location of burial of Martin Burch
      Location of burial of Martin Burch
      Photo courtesy: Stan Jett
      3/16/2012
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      Christopher Reff, John Reff
      George Reff, Mary Reff (Smithling)
      George Reff, Mary Reff (Smithling)


    4. [S846] Minnesota Deaths and Burials, 1835-1990, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://familysearch.org : 2012)), accessed Nov 17, 2012), Entry for Edith Combs; Citing death records, FHL 2223147, (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FDQJ-J5Z). (Reliability: 3), 17 Nov 2012.
      name: Edith Combs
      gender: Female
      burial date:
      burial place:
      death date: 23 Jan 1928
      death place: Perham, Otter Tail, Minnesota
      age: 33
      birth date: 1895
      birthplace:
      occupation:
      race:
      marital status: Married
      spouse's name: James Combs
      father's name: Micheal Smithling
      father's birthplace:
      mother's name: Mary Reff
      mother's birthplace:
      indexing project (batch) number: B02492-7
      system origin: Minnesota-EASy
      source film number: 2223147
      reference number: 11495
      Edith Combs
      Edith Combs
      Martin Burch & family, and mother Sarah
      Martin Burch & family, and mother Sarah
      Martin Burch & family, and mother Sarah, Washington, D.C., 1930
      Image source: https://archive.org/stream/15thcensus302unit#page/n69/mode/1up
      Sidner Ward
      Sidner Ward
      Sidner Ward
      Sidner Ward


    5. [S847] 1885 Minnesota State Census, Otter Tail County, Minnesota, Otter Tail, (Digital images. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. \i FamilySearch\i0 . http://familysearch.org : 2012), Hobart, p. 5, family 33, line 37, John Reff; (http://familysearch.org : accessed Nov 12, 2012) (Reliability: 3), 12 Nov 2012.
      name: John Reff
      residence: Hobart, Otter Tail, Minnesota
      age: 63 years
      estimated birth year: 1822
      birthplace: France
      race: White
      gender: Male
      family number: 33
      volume: Otter Tail
      page number: 4
      film number: 000565749
      Household Gender Age Birthplace
      Michael Smithling M 38y New York
      Mary Smithling F 33y New York
      George Smithling M 11y New York
      Leon Smithling M 9y New York
      Matew Smithling M 7y New York
      Frank Smithling M 5y New York
      Elizabeth Smithling F 3y New York
      John Reff M 63y France
      Julia Reff F 58y Germany
      Joseph Reff M 21y New York
      George Reff M 18y New York
      Josephine Reff F 16y New York
      William Reff M 14y New York

      name: Julia Reff
      residence: Hobart, Otter Tail, Minnesota
      age: 58 years
      estimated birth year: 1827
      birthplace: Germany
      race: White
      gender: Female
      family number: 33
      volume: Otter Tail
      page number: 4
      film number: 000565749
      Household Gender Age Birthplace
      Michael Smithling M 38y New York
      Mary Smithling F 33y New York
      George Smithling M 11y New York
      Leon Smithling M 9y New York
      Matew Smithling M 7y New York
      Frank Smithling M 5y New York
      Elizabeth Smithling F 3y New York
      John Reff M 63y France
      Julia Reff F 58y Germany
      Joseph Reff M 21y New York
      George Reff M 18y New York
      Josephine Reff F 16y New York
      William Reff M 14y New York
      John Reff
      John Reff
      Julia Reff
      Julia Reff
      Leonard Emmert and Catherine Schlegel
      Leonard Emmert and Catherine Schlegel
      John Reff and Julia Reff
      John Reff and Julia Reff