Other Events:

• Name: John B. Bichet
• Name: John Besa
• Reference Number: 393
• _TODO: Completed
• _UID: BC807B02184248B39D9EA419C86646A31D35
• Alt. Birth: 19 May 1810, Ronchamp, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France
• Alt. Birth: Jun 1810, Haute Saone, France
• Emigration: 15 Mar 1828, France
• Immigration: 30 Jun 1828, New York, New York, New York, USA
• Residence: 18 Jul 1828, LeRay, Jefferson, New York
• Census: 1835, Lyme, New York
• Residence: 1836, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; road 34
• Census: 1840, LeRay, Jefferson, New York
• Census: 1850, LeRay, Jefferson, New York
• Census: 1855, LeRay, Jefferson, New York
• Census: 1870, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; US Federal

Notes:

http://archives.cg70.fr/
Ronchamp : registre d'

Census:
1835 New York State Census


1.The name of the head of each family.
John Besa
2.The number of male persons in the family, (the name of whose head is in
the first column) including its head, if male. 1
6.The number of male persons in the same family who are aliens not
naturalized. 1
14.The number of marriages occurring in the same family, where the female
married resided during the year preceding. 1
17.The number of acres of improved land occupied by the same family. 3

Jean married Julia Moureaux 1836. Julia was born 3 Nov 1811; died 29 Jan 1886; was buried 1886, LeRay, Jefferson, New York. [Group Sheet]

1. Louis V. Bichet was born 22 Aug 1839, Evans Mills, Jefferson County, New York; died 26 Jan 1923, Croghan, Lewis County, New York; was buried 30 Jan 1923, Croghan, Lewis County, New York.
2. Joseph J. Besha was born 1841, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; died 30 Jan 1925, Watertown, Jefferson County, New York; was buried 1925, LeRay, Jefferson, New York.
3. Francis F. Bichet was born 1843, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; died Yes, date unknown.
4. Mary Jane Bichet was born 1845, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; died Yes, date unknown.
5. John Francis Bichet was born Cal 1846, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; died 8 Dec 1899; was buried Dec 1899, LeRay, Jefferson, New York.
6. Julia Annette Bichet was born 1849, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; died Yes, date unknown.
7. Peter J. Bichet was born 1850, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; died Sep 1925, Watertown, Jefferson County, New York; was buried 19 Sep 1925, LeRay, Jefferson, New York.
8. Celia Ludin Bichet was born 1852, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; died Yes, date unknown.

Other Events:

• Name: Claude Francis Bichet
• Name: Francis Bichet
• Name: Francis Bisha
• Reference Number: 229
• _TODO: Completed
• _TODO: Open
• _UID: 26397AE5AE4648AF80A7E9ACE56C5DA2B5BC
• Alt. Birth: 1786, Vesoul, , Franche-Comt
• Alt. Birth: 1786, dept de la haute Saone, France
• Alt. Birth: 1786
• Occupation: 27 Jun 1809, Ronchamp, Ronchamp, , Franche-Comt; tissier (clothier)
• Emigration: 15 Mar 1828, Mozer, Maine, de la Commune de Rouchamp, France
• Immigration: 30 Jun 1828, New York, New York, New York, USA
• Occupation: 30 Jun 1828; farmer
• Property: 18 Jul 1828, Wilna, Jefferson County, New York
• Census: 1830, Wilna, Lewis County, New York
• Naturalization: 3 Dec 1833, Watertown, Jefferson, New York, USA
• Census: 1835, LeRay, Jefferson, New York
• Census: 1840, LeRay, Jefferson, New York
• Property: 17 Sep 1842 or 1843, Jefferson County, New York, USA
• Religion: 1847, Evans Mills, Jefferson County, New York; trustee of St. Michael's (Catholic) Church
• Census: 1850, LeRay, Jefferson, New York
• Census: 1855, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; New York State
• Residence: 1855, LeRay, Jefferson, New York
• Will: 2 Jun 1856, LeRay, Jefferson, New York
• Probate: 14 Mar 1859, Watertown, Jefferson, New York, USA

Notes:

(Research):Bichet properties:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99W5-X2TD?i=143&wc=M7CC-PNB %3A358135401%2C360076301&cc=2078654

x 1828 - Claude Francois Bichet - A2, 603
1839 - Claude Francois Bichet - G3, 76
x 1840 - Francois Bichet - N3, 117
1847 - John Bichey - 84, 440
1849 - Jean Bichet - 94, 78
1855 - Joseph Bichet - 121, 165
1859 - Joseph Bichet - 137, 328
1861 - Joseph Bichet - 147, 479
1866 - Joseph Bichet - 167, 57
1867 - Joseph Bichet - 171, 31
1870 - Joseph Bichet - 183, 283
1883 - Joseph V. Bichet - 234, 172
1883 - John Bichet - 234, 250


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Claude Francois Bichet was the godfather of his sister's (Jeanne V

Occupation:
A 'tissier' (French word) means clothier.
tisseur = weaver (of fabric)
tissier = not in my dictionary, but must be related to woven material

Source:
http://frenchcanadianfamilytrees.blogspot.com/2008/08/french-to-english-translations-of.html

Census:
The 1840 census also reveals that a female between the ages of 50 to 59 was living in the same household. This would most likely be his first wife, Jeanne Marie. This assumption is made because his second wife Susan appears in the household in the 1850 census.


Residence:
Lived in LeRay for 20 years
Residence Surety:3

Will:
Leaves LeRay farm to son Joseph Bichet (102 acres) He also left $500.00
to his son John Bichet (Rich folks!)

Probate:
Joseph Bichet petitioned the court on Jan. 20, 1859

Claude married Jeanne Marie Vaugier 27 Jun 1809, Ronchamp, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France. Jeanne (daughter of Francois Joseph Vaugier and Elisabeth Laurent) was born 12 Mar 1782, Fresse, Sur-Moselle, Vosges (Lorraine), France; died 10 May 1842, LeRay, Jefferson, New York; was buried , LeRay, Jefferson, New York. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Name: Jeanne Marie
• Name: Jeanne Marie /Guille Guillerey
• Name: Joanne M Quye
• Name: Marie Jeanne Marguerite Gillet
• Name: Mary Bichet
• _UID: 9D2E80E84D60424481D737DD019500147C59
• Alt. Birth: 1783, Lorraine, France
• Occupation: 27 Jun 1809, Rhien; manouvier
• Emigration: 15 Mar 1828, Mozer, Maine, de la Commune de Rouchamp, France
• Immigration: 30 Jun 1828, New York, New York, New York, USA; brig C. Amelia

Notes:

(Research):1. The sibling relationship between Jeanne Marie Vaugier and Jean Joseph Vaugier has been established by the marriage record of Jeanne Marie Vaugier and Claude Francois Bichet. That marriage record states that Jean Joseph Vaugier is a "fr

Occupation:
http://www.genealogie.com/v2/genealogie-en-ligne/ancien-metier.asp?id_metier=68
(a page on old French occupations).

Journalier, manouvrier, brassier are apparently the same occupation, just called differently in different areas.
It appears that it can cover various things, depending on locality. It seems to suggest a "daily" worker - if in a rural area, someone who helped out at the harvest and otherwise took odd jobs here and there working for farmers, perhaps also having a small amount of land to work themselves, or another secondary job such as weaving to cover the winter months. If in a town, someone who took jobs by the day as and when they came up.

Other Events:

• Name: Jacobus Bichet
• _PPEXCLUDE: k
• _UID: F86C06E548D140C6914409C4903B85046407
• Alt. Birth: Cal 1740
• Alt. Birth: Cal 1740-1741, Le Rhien
• Occupation: 9 May 1786, le Rhien, Ronchamp, Lure, Haute Saone, France; laborer
• Occupation: 27 Jun 1809; plowman or farmer

Notes:

(Research):user Grisou1955 on http://www.delcampe.net/ now owns this letter which has names of Bichet and Poivey ancestors.

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,246753567,var,70-Haute-Saone--Champagney-Ronchamp-inteacute;ressante-lettre-posteacute;e-de-Philadelphie-Etats-unis-1827-,language,E.html

I sent this person this note on 5/26/2016

Hello,

My name is Paul Kelly. I have been conducting my family history research for more than 30 years.

I was quite disappointed to discover that this item had already been purchased (by yourself):
http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,246753567,var,70-Haute-Saone--Champagney-Ronchamp-inteacute;ressante-lettre-posteacute;e-de-Philadelphie-Etats-unis-1827-,language,E.html

From the description of this letter, I think it contains the names of two of my ancestors: (Jacque Bichet and Marie Angelique Poivey).

I would very much like to have a digital copy of this letter.

Would you be so kind as to provide it to me? I would be very grateful to you if you did this.

Please visit my genealogy web site to view the details of my Bichet/Poivey ancestors here:
http://www.rootsdigger.org/familygroup.php?familyID=F626&tree=tree1

Please respond to my email: rootsdigger05@comcast.net

Thank you!

Paul Kelly
Mount Vernon, WA
USA

Jacques married Marie Ang Poivey 5 Sep 1775, Ronchamp, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comt. Marie (daughter of Jean Poivey and Claude Fran Parisot) was born Cal 1754; died 6 Jan 1800, Ronchamp, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Name: Ang
• Name: Ang
• _UID: 47B950EDF5604C039ED77A0DBB864E15817C
• Residence: 6 Jan 1800, Ronchamp, Ronchamp, , Franche-Comt

Other Events:

• Name: Francois Vaugier
• _UID: A66716F0C2594B97B85351A8D070905C4034

Francois married Elisabeth Laurent 16 Jan 1776, Fresse, Sur-Moselle, France. Elisabeth (daughter of Jacques Laurent and Elizabeth Aguier) was born 18 Nov 1749, Fresse, Sur-Moselle, Vosges, France; was christened 18 Nov 1749, Fresse, Sur-Moselle, Vosges, France; died 28 Oct 1796, Servance, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comt. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _UID: EB83034A8C3642D3BB059653A8C720541ED1
• Alt. Birth: Cal 1751

Notes:

(Research):Contact this person:
http://gw.geneanet.org/cazeinromary?lang=en;pz=claude+georges+albert;nz=cazein;ocz=0;p=elisabeth;n=laurent;oc=4


1. Birth record: Elisabeth fille legitme de Jacques Laurent Jean et Elisabeth Arguiler

http://www.archives-recherche.vosges.fr/ark:/50275/vta528b5fec8ac27/daogrp/0/layout:table/idsearch:RECH_d478fedf8909bcd67574fc06d114eff7#id:388484145?center=1181.1218465084614,-1080.983900030153&zoom=6


2. 2nd Marriage - Garnier
http://www.remiremont.fr/archives/fond.php

Other Events:

• Alt. Birth: Le Rhien, Haute Saone, France
• Alt. Birth: cal 1703
• Name: Jean Bichet
• Name: Joannis Bichet
• _UID: D75A85E86CD645E69B08F96A2A58D2C328DD
• Occupation: 27 Oct 1739, Le Rhien, Haute Saone, France; Laboureur
• Occupation: 30 Jan 1740, Le Rhien, Haute Saone, France; laboureur au rhien
• Occupation: 28 Jul 1743, Le Rhien, Haute Saone, France; laboureur
• Occupation: 12 Jun 1747, Le Rhien, Haute Saone, France; laboureur au rhien

Notes:

TASK: Copy all events from person 1909 to this person.

(Research):Acte de naissance/bapt

Jean married Claude Marie Poivey 24 Apr 1731, Ronchamp, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France. Claude (daughter of Joannis Claudii Poivey and Catharinae Miellin) was born 12 Mar 1711, Ronchamp, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France; was christened 12 Mar 1711, Ronchamp, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France; died 27 Dec 1745, Ronchamp, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France; was buried 28 Dec 1745, Ronchamp, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Name: Anna Maria Poive
• Name: Annem Mariam Poive
• Name: Claudiae Mariae Poive
• _PPEXCLUDE: j
• _UID: DBAC1A11EE044D91B8748B2B951FFC7E92A8
• Alt. Birth: Cal 1709

Notes:

(Research):birth record:
http://archives.haute-saone.fr/ark:/77977/vta5c9611a9ab916364/daogrp/0/layout:table/idsearch:RECH_c283ed64993773d73c9dcfce2d82045c#id:659465885

Other Events:

• Name: Jean Poivey
• _UID: 2B6FC0F368354A34BA63B33700C78AB777D1

Notes:

(Research):https://www.myheritage.com/names/claude_poivey

Claude Sylvestre Poivey, 1798 - 1876
Claude Sylvestre Poivey was born on month day 1798, at birth place.
Claude married Claude G

Jean married Claude Fran Parisot 24 Mar 1750, Fresse, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France. Claude (daughter of Jean Claude Parisot and Claudine Lallemand) was christened 9 Mar 1724, Fresse, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France; died 7 Oct 1797, Ronchamp, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comte, France. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _PPEXCLUDE: m
• _UID: A3F3115B977448539796D61022D8BADB4A4A
• Alt. Birth: Cal 1724

Notes:

(Research):Was associated with French nobility?
http://www.editions-harmattan.fr/auteurs/article_pop.asp?no=10184

Author Jean-Marie Thiebaud
http://www.jeanmariethiebaud.com/

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Notes:

Married:
Acte de naissance/bapt

Other Events:

• Name: Touse Vaugier
• _UID: F891E321B7C24D768A31FA59D6FCDE921902
• Alt. Birth: 1727

Urse married Anne Marie Grisey 22 May 1749, Plancher-Bas, Haute-Saone, Franche-Comt. Anne was born Cal 1727; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Name: Anna Margareta Grize
• _UID: F6717E3E41FC44248F68BA422198EB278614

Notes:

(Research):Possible baptism record:

http://www.servancnaute.fr/actes3/acte_naiss.php?xid=761913&xct=6216

Acte de naissance/bapt

Other Events:

• Name: Jacq Laurent
• _UID: A17CB028741A4A16A59DCDA92B51B4D19C9A

Notes:

(Research):Sister = Anne Marie Laurent?
Godfather to his sister's son?
http://www.archives-recherche.vosges.fr/ark:/50275/vta528b5feabec8d/daogrp/0#id:44082642?center=995.9227978041221,-1627.6960496559273&zoom=6

Jacques married Elizabeth Aguier 7 May 1737, Fresse, Sur-Moselle, Vosges, France. Elizabeth (daughter of Claude Aguier and Anne Gaspard) died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Name: Elizabeth Arguiler
• _UID: 6CC53B135A074DEC99659D921E6BF30BCD0C